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- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 12:01:18 PDT
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 13 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 658
-
- Today's Topics:
- "73's"
- ** QUESTION TO HTX-202 OWNERS ** (2 msgs)
- 73zzzz
- Colorado 14er Radio Event
- FCC Database
- FXR Spectrum Analyser
- HTX 202
- Megaphone Needed
- Morse Code trainers
- Searching for Ettore Pederetti
- University Radio Clubs
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 94 18:26:07 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: "73's"
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Text item: Text_1
-
- >What has English got to do with 73? It is not an English word, it
- >is a radio code. It is already plural... Mike
-
- Hey Mike, you need to get out of the shack more often. Before there
- was such a thing as ham radio, 73 was (and is) an English figure and
- should follow the rules of the English language, e.g. I can't believe
- the number of 73's that I have seen lately on info-hams. Try composing
- the preceeding sentence without pluralizing 73. :-)
-
- 73, KG7BK, OOTC, CecilMoore@delphi.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:50:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!darwin.sura.net!coil!emerald.nist.gov!proctor@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ** QUESTION TO HTX-202 OWNERS **
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2tgt09$ml3@search01.news.aol.com> teacherjh@aol.com (Teacherjh) writes:
-
- -> My HTX-202 warms up a bit too on low power. I don't have the heat
- -> sink (belt clip) installed... it mungs up my belt.
-
- If you don't have the belt clip installed, I guess you don't hang it on
- your belt anymore. Why not install the clip/heat sink and still just not
- hang it on your belt?
-
- ->
- -> I have had some trouble with recieve PL... I set my HT to use PL
- -> squelch (open up when PL is recieved)... and even though the local
- -> repeaters transmit their own PL, my HT sometimes kicks in and out.
- -> Anyone else have that problem? Is this normal, or a defective unit,
- -> or an adjustment that can be made?
- ->
- -> Jose
- ->
-
- Are you sure it is the PL that is the problem? Do you have the "power save"
- option turned on? If so, turn it off, and your problem will probably go
- away. This is a common problem with the HTX-202 power saver. With the power
- save turned on, it is like a hybernating bear - it will sleep through almost
- anything :-)
-
- 3333333 (That's seven threes) - Jim
-
- --
- James E. Proctor | proctor@onyx.nist.gov | National Inst. of Stand. & Tech.
- My opinions are my own. I have the receipt to prove it.
- ** They're not going to pave the Information Supergravelroad, **
- ** they're only going to pave the on-ramps! **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 1994 12:29:01 -0400
- From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: ** QUESTION TO HTX-202 OWNERS **
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <940613105038@emerald.nist.gov>,
- proctor@news-reader.nist.gov (James Proctor) writes:
-
- >>
- Why not install the clip/heat sink and still just not hang it on your
- belt?
- <<
-
- It's a bit of a nuisance. I like the feel of the unit without the
- clip... and it fits better in my back pocket. :)
-
- >>
- Are you sure it is the PL that is the problem? Do you have the "power
- save"
- option turned on?
- <<
- Power Save is off.. I have heard of that problem but this isn't it.
-
- >>
- 3333333 (That's seven threes)
- <<
-
- Forest to you! (That's seventy trees) :)
-
- Jose KD1SB
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 94 17:21:15 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: 73zzzz
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- I hope you folks will soon resolve the problem of how to
- pronounce, spell, and punctuate that "best regards" problem, so
- that we all are using the term correctly to your satisfaction.
- The bandwidth is suffering.
-
- When you finish with that, could you please correct everyone in
- the southern US, so that they pronounce the word "YOU" without
- "all" attached at the end? That is equally important for y'all
- to address, and can be solved at least as easily as the above.
-
- @sqrt(5329)
-
- Paul Marsh N0ZAU Omaha
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 1994 15:36:26 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!bobw@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Colorado 14er Radio Event
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- COLORADO 14ER RADIO EVENT ANNOUNCEMENT
-
- The 1994 Colorado 14er Radio Event will be held Sunday,
- August 28th. During the event, a group of amateur radio
- operators will operate portable from the summits of
- various Colorado 14000 foot mountains. The operating
- times will be generally from 9 AM to 12 Noon local time.
- During last year's 14er Event, over 20 summits were on
- the air and between 150 and 200 different stations were
- heard that day.
-
- Radio amateurs are encouraged to work as many of the
- mountaintop stations as possible. However, this is NOT A
- CONTEST, no points are awarded, no scores recorded. A
- special event QSL card can be obtained by QSLing to the
- mountaintop station's home QTH (please include a Self-
- Addressed Stamped Envelope). To reduce QRM, PLEASE DO
- NOT USE HIGH POWER (more than 30 Watts) and DO NOT CALL
- FOR 14er STATIONS UNLESS YOU HEAR THEM.
-
- Radio operators with high altitude hiking experience who
- wish to participate should contact Bob, KB0CY at (719)
- 488-0859 or 18070 Sunburst Drive, Monument CO 80132. To
- avoid having multiple stations on the same peak, radio
- amateurs that want to participate must coordinate with
- KB0CY.
-
- Frequencies used during the event:
-
- 146.43 MHz Longs Peak
- 146.46 San Juan Range (Handies, Redcloud, ...)
- 146.49 Bierstadt, Grays and Torreys
- 146.55 Coordinating Frequency
- (Net Control, Pikes Peak)
- 146.58 Mt. Evans
- 147.42 Sangre de Cristo Range (Humboldt, ...)
- 147.45 Misquito Range (Quandary, Lincoln, ...)
- 147.48 Elk Range and Sawatch Range
- 147.51 Pikes Peak (QSOs)
- 147.54 Reserved for Mountaintop Stations Only
-
- 223.5 Primary 222 MHz frequency
-
- 446.000 Primary 70 cm frequency
- 446.025 Alternate 70 cm frequency
- 446.050 Alternate 70 cm frequency
-
- Other bands/modes: standard calling frequencies
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:00:39 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!news.bu.edu!gw1!nntpa!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC Database
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 94 15:33:36 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: FXR Spectrum Analyser
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am desperately looking for information about the FXR Spectrum
- Analyser (Model 2800A). I own such a unit with its S-band head
- (Model S-900B).
-
- FXR is a firm in US (FXR Inc. Woodside 77, NY) which may not
- exist any more. It is not to be confused with FXR-Microlab.
-
- Thank you to anyone willing to help. Any cost covered.
-
- Best 73's
- Pierre DEHEZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 94 09:15:41
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!nigel.msen.com!ilium!rcsuna.gmr.com!rcsuna.gmr.com!vbreault@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX 202
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CrAzDq.p5@telemax.com> macy@telemax.com (Macy Hallock) writes:
-
- <stuf deleted>
- Radio Shack will sell extended warranty, if you wish.
- (I prefer to use my Gold Mastercard's extended warranty program, BTW)
- <more stuff deleted>
-
- The terms of the Gold Mastercard warrenty extension limit coverage to
- defects in materials and workmanship. If you drop it and crack the
- case open you're out of luck. The Tandy service plan, however, is not
- limited to defects in materials and workmanship. For ~$40 you get five
- years coverage. I wish I had one when I dropped my two week old $500
- icom W2A 3 feet and broke the battery off. Icom's response was that the
- damage was caused by abuse and not covered by the warranty. Their
- solution was for me to buy a new battery ("$65 please").
-
- (In all fairness, after some amount of arm twisting, letter writing
- and waiting, icom replaced the battery "just this once".)
- --
- Val Breault - N8OEF - vbreault@gmr.com \ /|
- Instrumentation dept GM NAO R&D Center \ / |
- My opinions are not necessarily those of \ /__|
- GMR nor of the General Motors Corporation \/ |___
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 1994 09:44:25 -0600
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!xmission!u.cc.utah.@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Megaphone Needed
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Help.
- I am in need of a portable megaphone (power horn) for a SAR team
- and for some training. Anyone have one stashed in a junk bin
- that is gathering dust? Could be non-working and I'll try to
- fix. We had one but it got stolen during a search mission.
- thanks.
- Jerry Wellman, WB7ULH (CAP Lt. Col.)
- E-mail would be nifty and we can chat.
- thanks in advance
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 94 12:39:00 EST
- From: news1.hh.ab.com!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!lieser@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Morse Code trainers
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I recently purchased the Pocket Morse Code Trainer from Computer Aided
- Technology, Inc. in Dallas, Texas (advertised in May '94 CQ) for $29
- plus shipping. Here's a short and incomplete review, and then a mention
- of yet another pocket trainer that I've run across since:
-
- On the front panel are two pushbuttons, an on-off switch, and an earphone
- plug. The box itself is a plastic Rat Shack 270-293 Transmitter Case (a
- little bit bigger than a deck of cards and about twice as thick,
- but it fits nicely in a shirt pocket.) A volume control is recessed in
- the top (or bottom, if you prefer) of the unit, and is adjustable
- with a small flat-head screwdriver. Good idea, since it's not a knob on
- the unit which could accidentally turn on *FULL BLAST!* I use it with
- in-the-ear Sony headphones, and was able to turn the volume to its lowest
- point and hear the beeps very comfortably. Probably extends the life of
- the 9-volt battery somewhat, too.
-
- It uses 3 modes: 1) simple random mode, 2) interactive mode, and 3) a
- preprogrammed set of random codes. The modes are selected by which of
- the buttons on the front panel are pressed when powering the unit on.
- Pressing no buttons puts it into Mode 1. You then push button 1 a
- number of times which determines the code rate -- 0 times for 3 wpm,
- 1 time for 5 wpm, etc. up to 23 wpm. Press button 2 to indicate
- selection complete, then press button 1 again to select the character
- group. Not pressing it at all means use all codes, and pressing it
- anywhere up to 7 times changes the character set used (All Codes;
- A-Z,0-9; A-Z; A-I; J-Q; R-Z; 0-9; Punctuation and other). Pressing
- button 2 again to indicate selection complete and it begins transmitting.
-
- Mode 2 is selected by pressing and holding button 2 while turning on the
- power. This mode requires you to press button 2 after each character to
- allow you decide when you're ready for the next. Pressing button 1 after
- a character replays the same character again.
-
- Mode 3 is selected by pressing and holding button 1 while turning on the
- power. In this case, you again select the code speed and then select a
- pre-programmed test of around 80 characters. There are 6 tests to choose
- from, and they are printed on the last sheet of the instructions. I would
- think that one would use this only occasionally, so that you don't memorize
- the character strings.
-
- Lastly, holding both buttons down while powering on will put the unit into
- Mode 1, but will send the characters at 18 wpm with appropriate spacing
- (Farnsworth method.) This is what I've been using at 5 wpm (I may as well
- mention that the rates are 3-5-7-9-11-13-15-17-19-21-23). The documentation
- lists the top speed at 23 wpm, but the salesman on the phone had told me
- that it will now go to 31 wpm. I tried this and it seems to be correct.
-
- I originally (recently) learned the code with the ARRL Introduction tapes,
- and the sound quality, tone, and pitch sound pretty much like those tapes.
- I'm fairly impressed, and I think I'll get a good bit of use out of it as
- I attempt to ramp up the the 13 wpm level. Oh, the one I purchased is a
- stereo unit -- mono is available also.
-
- Compare this to the new MFJ Personal Morse Code Tutor at $79.95. This is
- also a pocket-sized unit, but your pockets need to be a little bigger --
- 3x1-1/8x5-1/2 inches. This unit's speed is selectable from 5 to 60 wpm,
- and the tone is adjustable from 300 to 3300 Hz. It's a metal box with
- a built-in speaker (or use headphones) and takes a 9-volt battery also.
- Farnsworth is supported, as well as "realistic" QSOs and complete words
- to allow you to learn to recognize entire words instead of just individual
- letters. I messed with one of these at the local Amateur Electronic
- Supply a bit -- seemed like a nice little unit, too.
-
- Ed Lieser
- Allen-Bradley Co., Cleveland, Ohio
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:27:26 EDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!caen!cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu!32glzkx@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Searching for Ettore Pederetti
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi!
- I am trying to reach Mr.Ettore Pederetti. He is an Italian and a radio Ham.
- He is currently in England pursuing his B.S degree. If anyone happens
- to contact him can you please give him my e-mail address, or give me his..
- either way...Thanks in advance.
- Latha...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 94 15:27:33 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: University Radio Clubs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for information about University Radio Club
- in US and in the world.
- I am ham radio here in Belgium (ON4IV) and I teach
- economics at the University of Louvain (french speaking).
-
- Best 73's
- Pierre DEHEZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 94 15:53:41 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher!user@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2t76la$7gl@sundog.tiac.net>, <Cr6r4L.68x@freenet.buffalo.edu>, <1994Jun10.133852.1@vax.sonoma.edu>p
- Subject : Re: FCC Database
-
- In article <1994Jun10.133852.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, harrisok@vax.sonoma.edu
- wrote:
-
- > In article <Cr6r4L.68x@freenet.buffalo.edu>, aa450@freenet.buffalo.edu (Kurt Rieder) writes:
- > >
- > > In a previous article, georget@max.tiac.net (George Turner) says:
- > >
- > >>Could some tell me how to get a ham 's name and address using his
- > >>call sign. Thought that I seen a ftp or usenet address that had the data base.
- > >>
- > > George,
- > >
- > > Try electra.cs.buffalo.edu for US/Can. database. The search engine
- > > is very good inasmuch as you can search for call, name, city, state,
- > > zip, etc.
- > > --
- >
- > Better yet, try: callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000
- > via Telnet.
- > Using the 2000 port gets you right on without having to log on or have an
- > account.
-
- Go it one better... using Mosaic open URL
- http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html
- That's the Boston Amateur Radio Club's home page and from there you can
- select a lookup callsign option.
-
- By telnet... pc.usl.edu 2000 - Much better than Buffalo since the info is
- fairly current.
- --
- == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
- == Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu, Tel. (401) 863-1880 Fax. (401) 863-2269
- == The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:30:26 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!darwin.sura.net!coil!emerald.nist.gov!proctor@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2t76la$7gl@sundog.tiac.net>, <Cr6r4L.68x@freenet.buffalo.edu>, <1994Jun10.133852.1@vax.sonoma.edu>emera
- Reply-To : proctor@onyx.nist.gov
- Subject : Re: FCC Database
-
- In article <1994Jun10.133852.1@vax.sonoma.edu> harrisok@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
-
- -> In article <Cr6r4L.68x@freenet.buffalo.edu>, aa450@freenet.buffalo.edu (Kurt Rieder) writes:
- -> >
- -> > In a previous article, georget@max.tiac.net (George Turner) says:
- -> >
- -> >>Could some tell me how to get a ham ^H's name and address using his
- -> >>call sign. Thought that I seen a ftp or usenet address that had the data base.
- -> >>
- -> > George,
- -> >
- -> > Try electra.cs.buffalo.edu for US/Can. database. The search engine
- -> > is very good inasmuch as you can search for call, name, city, state,
- -> > zip, etc.
- -> > --
- ->
- -> Better yet, try: callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000
- -> via Telnet.
- -> Using the 2000 port gets you right on without having to log on or have an
- -> account.
- ->
- -> Ken Harrison
- -> N6MHG
- -> email: harrisok@sonoma.edu
- ->
-
- Better yet still, try: cs.buffalo.edu 2000
- via Telnet.
-
- A quick pass through a nameserver will show that (currently)
- electra.cs.buffalo.edu, callsign.cs.buffalo.edu, and cs.buffalo.edu all
- resolve to the same IP address :-). As to which one is "correct" , my guess
- would be callsign.cs..... but that is only a guess. As long as they all
- resolve to the same address, why not use the shortest one.
-
- 73 - Jim
-
- --
- James E. Proctor | proctor@onyx.nist.gov | National Inst. of Stand. & Tech.
- My opinions are my own. I have the receipt to prove it.
- ** They're not going to pave the Information Supergravelroad, **
- ** they're only going to pave the on-ramps! **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 1994 12:16:17 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <441@bjohns.win.net>, <CrAzDq.p5@telemax.com>, <5k7t-LY.larrygood@delphi.com>edu
- Subject : Re: HTX 202
-
- larrygood@delphi.com writes:
-
- >Macy Hallock <macy@telemax.com> writes:
- >
- >>Cannot operate out of band as other units can.
- >
- >Is there an extended recieve code anywhere out there for this radio?
- >also, I'm sort of new to both HAM and internet, in the first message, there
- >was a series of codes, what in the world was that?
- >I'd appreciate any assistance, advice, or suggestions relating to this radio.
-
- According to Radio Shack, there is *no* way to give this radio extended
- receive. It was contradictory to the goal of making it extremely intermod-
- resistant (and according to both QST and 73 it's the best unit on the market
- as far as resisting intermod). As RadShack's product manager said in an
- article he wrote about it, "An HT with extended receive can't do anything that
- a scanner can do better, so if you want a scanner, go out and buy one." Or
- something like that.
-
- --
- ---
- Doug Renze, N0YVW * drenze@isca.uiowa.edu * N0YVW @ W0IUQ.ia.usa.na
- DRenze@aol.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- Actually, Buffalo has more current information (January 1994).
- USL goes back to November 1993.
-
- 73,
- Bob K2PH
-
- --
- ----------------------------------------------------
- Bob Schreibmaier K2PH | UUCP: ...!att!mtdcr!bob
- AT&T Bell Laboratories | Internet: bob@mtdcr.att.com
- Middletown, N.J. 07748 | ICBM: 40o21'N, 74o8'W
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:05:58 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!rohvm1!rohvm1.mah48d@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jun10.155646.6575@news.yale.edu>, <jchandleCr7MzH.4II@netcom.com>, <n1gakCr7o8y.F0q@netcom.com>ah48
- Subject : Re: VHF Outrage/License Fees
-
- In article <n1gakCr7o8y.F0q@netcom.com>, n1gak@netcom.com (Scott Statton)
- wrote:
-
- >
- > This is probably an unpopular sentiment, but here goes:
- > AFAIK the US is the ONLY nation that charges $0.00 for a life-time
- > amateur license.
- >
- > If kicking in a pittance every year (and, face it, genetlpersons, $7
- > per annum is NOT a huge sum of money .. less than 2 cents per day;
- > heck, I lose that much behind the sofa) will warm the cockles/coffers
- > of our government, and maybe make them just a TEENY bit more
- > responsive to us, then it's a good thing.
- >
-
- Remember that fees collected by the FCC go into the "Great Big Government
- Kitty", not into FCC coffers. Our paying an extra tax (which is the effect
- of a fee) doesn't help the FCC, so it doesn't make them more responsive to
- us. It just costs us money. I'm glad you want to help out the US
- Government in its financial plight brought about by years of
- irresponsibility, but I'd prefer you did it by contributing your _own_
- money rather than that of all the hams!
-
- --
- John Taylor (W3ZID) | "The opinions expressed are those of the
- rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com | writer and not of Rohm and Haas Company."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jun 1994 11:37:00 -0600
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CSLE87-090694095911@145.39.1.10>, <2t9u1d$3n9@nyx10.cs.du.edu>, <rogjdCr7tnH.ByI@netcom.com>
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <rogjdCr7tnH.ByI@netcom.com>,
- Roger Buffington <rogjd@netcom.com> wrote:
- >Jay, if your asnine rhetoric of calling me a communist weren't so darned
- >funny, I'd probably be pissed at you. Why don't you invest in a
- >dictionary or a good thesaurus, and see if you can't find a better
- >adjective. I am just old enough to resent twerps who carelessly call
- >honest folks communists.
-
- Sorry, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. You want to force repeater owners to
- allow anyone and everyone to use their repeaters, contributing or not, good
- operator or not, harmoniously with the trustee and existing users or not. You
- want to let anyone use a repeater even if they won't lift a finger to do
- anything but push the PTT. Just because someone can put up a repeater, you
- think it should be a public utility. "From each according to his ability, to
- each according to his needs"...words straight out of the Communist Manifesto.
- Repeater users of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
- Right. You, sir, are a repeater communist, and I do not say that carelessly,
- but with a great deal of deliberation.
-
- >Now, Jay, this just shows that you haven't bothered reading much of this
- >thread. You haven't done your homework. Firstly, if you'd get off of your
- >high-horse and stop using phrases like "he and his buddies could get a
- >free ride..." etc., maybe the rest of us would take you seriously. As I
- >have published on this thread earlier, I belong to three clubs, I pay over
- >$200 per year to contribute to the upkeep of various repeaters. OPEN
- >Repeaters. How you doing, chum?
-
- I've been involved in ham radio, including several repeater groups, for over
- 20 years. I've put more into repeaters and repeater clubs and frequency
- coordination than you've put into radios. I've served the hams of Texas in
- various capacities for almost 10 years...how long have you been in ham radio?
-
- If you want to put up and support open repeaters, great. I've been there
- before. I think there's a need for open repeaters...but where we differ is
- that I think there's a place for closed machines, too.
-
- The only folks who want to outlaw closed repeaters - for that's essentially
- what you're calling for - are those who want someone else to make their radios
- useful. If you think that that places me on a high horse, all I can say is
- come up here and enjoy the view.
-
- >Please answer concisely. These 5 or 6 page answers you've been posting
- >have given my "kill" function enhanced utility.
-
- You are, of course, entitled to read what you'd like. This issue, however, is
- not one that lennds itself to concise answers; it's a knotty, complex,
- political one that's been going on for longer than you've even known about ham
- radio. I've been writing as concisely as I can while still addressing the
- issues. It's just not as black-and-white as you'd like to believe.
- --
- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
- jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
- To Sarah Brady, Howard Metzenbaum, Dianne Feinstein, and Charles Schumer:
- Thanks. Without you, I would be neither a gun owner nor an NRA life member.
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